Attention: Any man who is not having fun, flirty, SEXY conversations with every woman he meets:

Who Else Wants to Know EXACTLY What to Say
EVERYTIME with literally ANY women...
Without trying to be Something or Someone you're not...
Without ever feeling even the Slightest Discomfort...
and Without any fear of Rejection Whatsoever?

Never, EVER have that horrible feeling of…

“I don’t know
what to say”…

With women – Ever Again!

Revealed on this page:

Get a "voyeur look" as PickUp 101 instructors are put on the spot! They have to PROVE their dating skills are the real deal... with no safety net , with real girls live... as audience members look on! (How'd they do? Keep reading to find out!)...

Rookie student goes home with girl the FIRST NIGHT of the seminar! Our methods are SO easy to use a student casually decided to 'try them out' on the first night of the seminar, with no time to practice, rehearse, or review... and ended up following her to her room that very night - all without even leaving the seminar hotel...

Dating secrets SO powerful they work on a hired PickUp 101 "Supergirl" who knows all our tricks! Our instructor Joe Brody attracts one of the PickUp 101 female coaches... on stage... in front of an audience... at a pickup seminar... (best part: they're still dating today!) Get the full scoop below...

REAL women give their feedback on the "attraction secrets" Lance Mason shares with his audience! (did they agree? OR did they think I was full of it?)...

Plus much, much MORE!


Dear Friend,

If you’ve ever…

Seen a woman you wanted to talk to, but didn’t because you had no clue what to say

Been talking to a woman and totally ran out of topics to talk about

Not been able to connect and have a fun, charming conversation with the women you’ve approached nearly EVERY TIME…

… or even if you're already having good results with women, but want to fine tune your skills so you NEVER run out of material that gets the results you want... then you'll want to read every word of this important letter!

This "Natural" is Uniquely Qualified To Teach YOU How to have the fun, sexy conversations with women you've always dreamed of!

Lance Mason wasn't always a natural, in fact at one point he was terrible with women and angry at them for not being attracted to him... and angry at the guys who seemed to have it so easy!

Luckily, that was the motivation Lance needed to discover through trial and error a completely different way to meet, attract and keep the women he had always wanted!

Lance founded PickUp 101 and has been teaching guys the secrets of meeting and attracting women for over 6 years now. Industry experts and satisifed clients can't stop talking about Lance Mason...


"PickUp 101 has some of the most innovative and powerful ways I've ever seen to build attraction with a woman FAST... and connect with her on a DEEP EMOTIONAL LEVEL."
-- David DeAngelo (


"They are great teachers with massive in-field experience. Their exciting new ideas have contributed to the advancement of our art."
-- Mystery (

Here’s what it’s all about: My name is Lance Mason and me and the other instructors here at PickUp 101 are asked daily: “what should I say” by sincere guys wanting to get better at meeting and dating the women of their dreams.

And although I'm darn near famous for telling guys that the words coming out of your mouth aren't all that important...

... that body language, facial expressions, and having what I call "physical confidence" are far more important...

... I have a confession to make...

“What you Say to women actually DOES matter!”

In fact, it matters a lot (what you should NOT say to women matters a heckuvalot too!)

What we hear from men around the world is the information they're getting from other sources is taking them "almost all the way" but leaving them frustrated. There are "missing pieces" to their dating education that they would desperately love to fill in…

… but they simply don't know where to look or what to do to get that final missing connection between where they are now, and where they want to be.

If you would like to discover ALL the secrets to mastering your conversational skills and have a ton of fun while you're at it… then you've come to the right place...

On September 15th, 16th, and 17th of 2006, a special, SECRET, "once-in-a-lifetime" event was held in San Francisco, California. The theme of this event was how to unleash the charismatic “ladies man” within you that women absolutely LOVE.

It was called…

The Charismatic Conversations Seminar!

This wasn't your typical “Pickup” seminar.

It was called "Charismatic Conversations" because we identified all the stumbling blocks that cause men to run out of things to say when they’re having conversations with the hottest women. And we systematically identified and broke through ALL those barriers.

In fact, we smashed those doors to pieces... and allowed the natural unique charisma of each of the individual seminar attendees to emerge!

Here's what one of our students said about just the first day's material (This is actually a slightly shorter transcript of the complete story; he jumped on stage and ripped the microphone from my hands to tell, because he was so excited!):

Mike, at Charismatic Conversations

"Thank You Lance Mason -- You Changed My Life!"

My name is Mike, and I attended the Charismatic Conversations seminar. Let me tell you what happened the first day of the seminar...

I caught this absolutely gorgeous woman's glance in the lobby of the hotel, unfortunately I didn't approach then because she was talking to another guy... but I saw her again in the hotel bar later sitting by herself.

I approached her using one of the opening lines Lance had taught us that first day... and also sprinkled in the banter lines he showed us. In fact, when she asked me what I was doing at the hotel - I told her I was attending a pickup seminar.

But it didn't matter, the attraction was already there, because it wasn't long before she was making out with me right there at the table!

She even told me I wasn't kissing her hard enough... and asked me if I was uncomfortable. I told her I was a little shy to be making out with her in front of everyone like that, so she invited me up to her hotel room...

And the rest, as they say, is history!

Thank you Lance Mason -- You Changed My Life!

-- Mike K.
Harvard Business School alumni

Retired investment banker

Stanford graduate student

And those were just the results from a rookie student using the FIRST DAY of material with no time to practice or rehearse what had been taught.

I knew this material was powerful, but I have to admit even I was surprised to hear about these results from a guy who never even left the conference hotel!

We limited attendance to just 38 men. We kept it small on purpose. Each attendee had to qualify to get in the door… and pay a king's ransom to boot.

(The amazing thing was, we had men from all walks of life in totally unrelated industries: doctors, lawyers, entrepreneurs, artists, engineers and others.)

More important was the fact that we revealed all our conversational secrets like… Why being an attractive man can actually work AGAINST you when it comes to attracting women (you’re fooling yourself if you think you need to be good looking to date incredibly hot women)! Or… How you can totally screw up your opening line with a woman (or group of women)… and still have them attracted to you!

And more.

What we really did was divulge everything — I mean every last little secret — we know about having attractive, powerful, emotionally charged conversations with women… including secrets none of us instructors revealed before until that powerful seminar.

Secrets even experienced “Ladies Men” can reap huge rewards from.

We revealed…

Exactly what to say to women… In every conceivable situation... In each stage of the initial meeting or relationship... to get the result you want "almost" every time. Most importantly, we teach you how to make sure it "fits" with your unique personality and how to use your own life experiences to come up with interesting conversation women will love!

Why most men end up in a relationship with a person they’re not attracted to… and… more importantly, how to make sure it NEVER happens to you!

What NOT to say to women… if you want them to still be attracted to you. (this may be even MORE important than what you actually say!)

What every woman (especially the most attractive women) fears MOST about guys

Why you can’t trick a woman into being attracted to you (there’s a specific scientific answer never revealed before), and the only thing that will allow you to attract women…

And that’s just scratching the surface!

Along with my select panel of senior PickUp 101 instructors, we kept the entire audience spellbound, non-stop for three entire days. We shared every conversational tip, strategy, and technique in our collective “bag of tricks”.

Men All Over the World
Blew Off Work, Meetings,
And Even Dates With Hotties

To Get Their Hands On This Deal!

You wouldn't believe the lengths that men on my Inner Circle VIP list went to to get their hands on Charismatic Conversations when we first released it...

So I'll just let them tell you in their own words.

 I Made the TV Stations, the Chinese Government and a Pregnant Panda Wait Until AFTER I Got My Paws on Free Coaching with Lance!

 "I Blew Off My Date, but That Was Nothing... Because Then I Blew Off the Secretary of Defense! It Was Worth It. You Changed My Life!"

 "You Guys are Family, and I Can't Let Down My Family, So I Cancelled My Date with a Hottie... then She Showed Up at My House ANYWAYS to Come Find Me... It was Like a Horror Movie...!"


We’ve Never Seen More “Dating Geniuses”
Assembled Into A Single Room!

My hand-assembled team of PickUp 101 instructors for the Charismatic Conversations seminar included:

Sean (Newman) Messenger

Sean Deacon

Daniel Johnson

Joe Brody and Lauren: They first met presenting at the Seminar and have been together ever since!

Ken Robertson: Professional Improv Perfromer and Instructor

The Bad News:
You Missed Out!

This seminar was truly one of a kind… and I'm NEVER doing another one like it.

Some seminar attendees paid over $3,000 just to get into the room, and some traveled as far as India to get there (one guy, Harsh B., even jumped up on stage and said he cancelled on a date with a supermodel just to be there... he said he figures he'll get plenty more dates with the secrets he learned during the weekend)!

Everyone there emphatically said it was worth the investment because what they learned has transformed their conversations with women from boring “interviews” into fun, charming, interesting "mini-dates"! They literal can wait for the next opportunity to talk to an attractive women.

But the bad news is: you missed out!

The Good News…

Wouldn't you like to know what those attendees now know?

Of course you would.

So… if you are ready to find out what really attracts women and how to have fun, sexy conversations with them… then… the conversation and social secrets disclosed at my seminar are mandatory. Because you won't stumble across this amazing insider's information anywhere else.

Think about it for a moment...

What do you get when you "lock" a bunch of top “pickup artists” who have not only been studying and improving their relationships with women, but also teaching about it for YEARS into a single, private room for three solid days, and force them to reveal their innermost secrets and strategies?

What do you get when these dating superstars share how to keep conversations with hot women going effortlessly... create truly memorable experiences for women... and achieve rock-star results FAST?

What if during those three "invitation-only" days everything was recorded?

In other words, what if every proven tip... every tested strategy... and every surefire technique... have all been captured on video?

Well, now's your chance to get your hands on those special videos and accompanying information that only a handful of men have seen before (and paid a king's ransom for).

Not only that, but we've also beefed up the content with special "extra-curricular" insiders information... all on 12 DVDs, hours of content... including slides and accompanying handouts!

Introducing, for the first time ever...

Charismatic Conversations

This is unlike any “dating advice” or “pickup” course you may have seen or heard about before.

And it works for anyone.

It doesn't matter if you're an outgoing, social, fun-loving guy… a reserved, introvert…. Or someone who can only talk to women after 6 beers in a dark bar…

... Now you, too, can discover how to easily turn your conversations with women into charming, sexy experiences... at will.

Charismatic Conversations is guaranteed to eliminate the 3 biggest problems that plague most men who are stuck and cannot get to the next level of success with women:

1. Lack of Knowledge. There’s a lot of misinformation out there about what it really takes to have a fun, sexy conversation with ANY woman. (In fact, if you've already studied dating products before a lot of what you've been taught, frankly, doesn't work because it's wrong. You have to separate the good from the bad.)

2. Lack of Technique. Knowledge, by itself, will make you smarter — but it won't give you the results you want… with the women you desire. You need to know how to apply your "know how" to make it work for you. (Most of the guys who teach pickup seminars, even the "superstars," don’t really teach you how to do what they do.)

3. Barriers and Blocks. Even if you know what to do and how to do it, but if you can't get past what's holding you back internally, you'll never get the results you want... and deserve. (It's that sick, sinking feeling in the pit of your stomach that you feel before you approach a gorgeous woman, which is one of the things that stops guys from plowing ahead to the next level of success.)

I've literally created the life with women that I desire, and so have the other handpicked members of the faculty who teach you in this system.

For example, check out a few of the secrets revealed in each DVD…

DVDs 1 & 2 –
Laying down the basics and introducing Banter!

What Other Men, Just Like You, Have to say...

"It's very simple but it's also very effective"...

... And it's something I was never taught, so it's very cool to learn from someone who has mastered these skills, and it's obvious Lance has mastered these skills.

I've already put in to practice a lot of things I've learned from Lance, and I KNOW it works. It's been very helpful."

- James
Real Estate Developer, San Francisco CA

"It's Almost Instantaneous In Your Life!"

"It's my first workshop I've taken. I was kind of scared and really skeptical. But going through it step-by-step was really easy to learn and practicing it on the breaks. I picked it up quickly

The girls gave me a lot of information I would have otherwise never discovered on my own. Getting their perspective was an eye opener.

Honestly I've read a lot of stuff for the last year straight. That didn't help me as much as seeing what they were teaching.

My favorite thing was realizing it's not that hard, and it's small stuff that you can do it really quick. It's almost instantaneous. You need to practice a little bit, but for the most part it's almost instantaneous in your life."

- Jeremy
Manager, Sacramento CA

"Before I was 'creepy' -- Now I'm not!"

"Before this program, I never thought I should touch a woman before she touched me. And I was often written off as a creepy guy and now I know how to prevent that.

Lance is really good at motivating and inspiring people. It's clear that he knows exactly what he's doing and he seems to be pretty good at conveying that to other people. You can be really good at something, but how well do you convey that to someone else. Lance seems to have that gift."

--Tim Zebel
Audio Engineer, Oakland CA

"...Learned more from Lance than in 20 years of experience!"

"I have learned more about body language from Lance in 2 DVDs and a workshop than I learned from 4 years at university and 20 years experience."

-- Trevor R
Psychotherapist, UK.

"That weekend changed my life!"

"That weekend in May changed my life, and I owe you and Sean big time. Since the workshop I have attracted 100's of girls, connected and dated about 20, and seduced 6 all the way to a sexual relationship. I love my life right now, and feel that every guy should exeperience this feeling."

-- Berny K.

Chicago IL

"I got more than I expected!"

"This is my first program with PickUp 101. When I first came in I was intimidated and I didn't know if the material would be too much for me, but all my questions were answered in a clear manner.

I thought I had pretty decent body language coming in, but I wanted to make sure, and finding out that I was moving 10 times too fast was a big AHA for me. I didn't realize that slowing things down so much could come off as natural.

Body language is so much of the overall communication of an interaction that of course it works. And you might not even realize how you are coming across with out someone guiding you. It is a skill that can be taught and Lance does it very well.

I got more than I expected!"


Senior Research Technician, Santa Clara CA,

"Every woman would want their man to know about"...

"If you are thinking this program is too hard, you're wrong. You'll learn confidence, understand women, and understand yourself much more thoroughly.

Lance is a regular guy that makes women comfortable with him, and he is able to pass that on through this program.

This is something every woman would want their man to know about."

-- Kevin

Tucson AZ

In the first two DVDs I go deep into attraction for men and women... what women really FEAR about men... all about banter and how to use it... and how to convey your personality...


• Why attraction is instantaneous… but… its power never dies (this is the reason why you can keep a woman attracted to you for YEARS)

• The scientific reasons behind why attraction is actually the SAME between men and women (you’ve been misled—lied to—if you’ve learned different!)

• Why using other “dating guru's” routines, stories, and openers can make you come off as creepy to women… and the ONE thing you need to do in order to make other people's material work for you…

• This is the reason why you've probably blown it if you've ever dated a woman “out of your league”. Plus, here’s how to keep yourself from driving away the woman of your dreams again!

• Why you can’t trigger attraction in ANY woman unless you’re this specific type of man…

• Why you absolutely don’t need money to attract women!

• Exactly what women mean when they say a guy is “creepy”… and… what you absolutely must NOT do to avoid being one of those guys!

• How a woman can be attracted to you at first… and how you can screw it up and become super creepy (you NEVER want to make these simple mistakes!)

• How a woman can tell right away whether you’re a man who’s comfortable talking with women like her (women have almost a sixth sense about whether you date women in her league—this is how they do it)

• How you can keep from boring a woman to tears! (Hot women hear the same things, the same lines, from guys ALL the time—you’ll discover how not to fall into this deadly trap)

• How even a total nerd, who plays dungeons and dragons, can be attractive to women because of this one often overlooked personality trait…

DVD 3 & 4 -
Making Banter Work for you and getting past your sticking points

Then I went farther into how to make banter work, going deep into role playing, what sparks attraction and breaking down the barriers and roadblocks that keep men from being successful using banter.

I also shared...

• How to correctly use role playing to spark surefire attraction in any woman

• The specific reason why your banter lines sometimes fail and exactly what you can do about it.

• The one single thing behind what makes our banter lines always work (hint: it’s NOT what you say!)

• What hot women really mean when they say “I like him cause he makes me laugh

• Why girls will ALWAYS laugh when you deliver a banter line properly (hint: it’s not because the line is funny!)

• The biggest problem guys have with making banter lines work…

• How to use banter lines on even the highest caliber women effectively (Best part: the more powerful and attractive the woman – the better this works!)

• How to use banter lines to get attraction even with foreign women or women who don’t speak English fluently

• Why you can NEVER take banter too far (hint: if your lines are bombing—you’re probably making this mistake instead!)

• The hard and fast rule to how quickly you should deliver your banter line (if you follow this rule—everyone will have fun and the girls will never feel uncomfortable!)

DVD 5 & 6 –
How to handle groups of women, more banter, and how to not be a douchebag!

In this session I went deep into the more "advanced" topics of banter... how to handle other guys and groups of men and women... and more...

• When you absolutely MUST interrupt a woman or group of women speaking… if… you want to keep them attracted and not get blown out!

• How to get away with banter lines that REALLY push the envelope and can possibly backfire (if you don’t pay attention to these simple, yet powerful details, you’ll find yourself offending girls often!)

• A near perfect method to determine if your banter line is going to work before you deliver it

• How to perfectly recover when you get a “mortified reaction” from women after you poorly deliver a banter line... you'll stay in the conversation and continue charming them!

• A simple, yet commonly overlooked, way to get comfortable talking to even the hottest girls… even if… you’re totally ‘locking up’ when you talk to them now!

• The most common, versatile, role playing structure to use during banter that almost guarantees attraction

• How you can use the powerful technique of the “role reversal” to simultaneously create instant attraction and show even the hottest women you understand the way she feels…

• Why you don’t even need to use words to make 99% of banter lines work (this is the reason why our banter lines work even in loud clubs and bars when you can’t hear anything!)

• How to NOT come off as a “douchebag” when approaching mixed groups of guys and girls (if you don’t get this right—you’ll always be perceived as a complete jerk by women… and you’ll never get the girls you REALLY want!)

How to successfully handle guys who try to be jerks and mess with you while you’re talking with a girl (you know—“cock blockers”) and how to always come out on top as the confident, cool guy who knows how to handle aggressive, macho, jerks while making even the hottest woman feel comfortable, SAFE, and protected when she’s with you (because she knows you deal with this all the time because you date the hottest girls that always get hit on!).

DVDs 7 & 8 –
Powerful banter, openers, and testing for attraction

• The 3 types of women you’ll encounter when you start bantering with women (and how to calibrate your banter with all of them so you attract them and don’t offend them)

• Why having a gimmick or prop to get into conversations with girls will absolutely work against you… and… how to stay out of this dangerous “entertainer” role (the “dancing monkey” girls find entertaining -- but are NOT attracted to)

• Why the simplest conversational openers are almost ALWAYS the best! You get TONS of examples of these that literally work under any situation so you can pick your favorite.

• How to make sure you have the attention of any group of girls before you open (if you don’t do this, you’ll only come off as creepy and weird)

• What topics you absolutely MUST avoid when you’re in the attraction phase of your first interaction with a woman

• Why it may not be good if a woman is flirting with you too much when you first meet her (knowing this one will keep you out of a lot of trouble!)

• The simplest, most sure-fire way, to test a woman’s physical attraction for you (quickly and discreetly so she still feels comfortable... even if... she’s around all her friends)

• How to stop a banter battle with a woman and smoothly transition into vibing with her…

• How to approach a woman who is with a guy… and… have both the girl AND the guy loving you (when you do this right, the guy will think you’re way cooler than he is, walk away and let you take the girl!)

• How to make the guy in a group of girls your “wingman” (He’ll actually help you pick out the best girl of the group for you!)

• How to handle a guy who gets aggressive (the classic “AMOG”) when you approach him and the girl he’s with (once you see this done, you’ll be amazed at how quickly you can walk away with the girl even after the guy tries to shut you down!)

• How to build up sexual tension with women so when you give a punch line or banter line you’re guaranteed a laugh!

DVDs 9 & 10 --
Improv, comedy, storytelling, and getting dates

"After PickUp 101, I started getting results instantly!"

"Basically I’ve taken every workshop that exists, almost exists on earth about picking up girls and having the attraction and all that kind of stuff. Before I got little results because of the routines and most of the workshops, they teach you about routines like use this line or use this routine and because you will get a laugh and she will get attracted to you and that happened for the start and I could make a girl laugh in two minutes but it did not go anywhere after that because I was clueless because it wasn’t me in the end, it was just some routine, and after that I’m like what do I talk about?

I don’t know how that’s possible because I had taken some of the workshops like two years back, and I was getting the same results for two years, and after this PickUp 101, I started getting results instantly...

I was shocked and then like in 1 months I had like three girlfriends and my friends were like, “What happened? Suddenly you went from, you were this guy who didn’t have any girlfriends to having three girlfriends?

I’m from India. I’m from Bombay, India. sometimes before that I used to think, “I’m from India. Will this work for me?” But I guess it works for me, so it will work for anyone and everyone else."

-- Harsh

Bombay, India

We brought in a professional improv actor to teach the session on improv and comedy... and the guys absolutely loved it.

Also, this is where you'll see how to put together everything you've learned so far... and apply it to getting dates!

Plus, you'll discover...

• Principles of improv you can apply right now to strengthen your social skills and ability to have more charming conversations with women!

• Amazing improv secrets that make it almost impossible to get “blown out” when approaching women (even better: you’ll actually look forward to getting resistance from women once you understand how much fun you can have!)

• How to make that horrible moment when you run out of things to say (or when you screw up) your best moment by taking control of the situation and making her laugh, every time—GUARANTEED!

• How to make your “attraction story” REALLY work to get women attracted and interested in you… plus, if you do it right, women will have so much fun they won't care if your story is even true!

• The topics you absolutely do NOT want to bring up in any story unless you want the girls you’re with to be mortified!

• How to use story telling to blast past any sticking point you may have (this works great if you get comments like “you’re such a nice guy”… or the opposite… “you’re such a player” you’ll discover how to fix this through storytelling!)

• How to create a story from your life experiences that you like… that attracts women to you… and you love to tell over and over again… in just 3 minutes!

• 6 ways you can fine-tune your personal identity and image so you eliminate negative assumptions women have about you and strengthen the positive ones girls assume about you!

• How to develop your personal image so you attract the type of woman YOU want!

• How to tweak other people’s material so it matches your personal image and vibe so you can effectively steal it and use it for yourself!

• The surprising reason why playing the video game, Donkey Kong Jr., is the secret weapon to having more charismatic conversations with every group of women you meet (it sounds crazy, but it works like gangbusters!)

• The type of conversation topics that are perfect for vibing with a group of women (these tools help you lay back but also lead the conversation of a group of girls AFTER you’ve presented yourself as an attractive, confident man)

• A simple way to answer any question a woman asks that will make her intrigued and want to know more about you (you’ll kick yourself for never thinking about this before – you’ll never have boring “interviews” instead of a conversation with a woman again!)

• The easiest way in the world to have a woman talking more when all she’s doing is giving you simple, one word answers to all your questions…

• How to smoothly and confidently pick out the girl you like from a group of girls in a way that makes every other person in the group feel happy and comfortable…

• How to “isolate” a woman from her girlfriends without making her, or her friends, feel uncomfortable (she’ll LOVE the fact you understand how to talk to her one-on-one without making anyone feel bad)

• The foolproof technique for isolating a girl when she’s with only one girlfriend so that you don’t leave the one girl alone, feeling creeped out (this technique is so effective, and so bulletproof, you can hear me say on the DVD, if you can’t make it work, “you were never meant to be with a woman!”)

• Why you absolutely should NOT try to get a girl’s phone number (and NO, you don’t want to give her your number instead!)

• What to do when you can tell a girl's not really into the date you want to go on (this is your only chance to turn a “no” into a “maybe”!)

• How to never fall into the trap of seeming needy when you’re trying to set up a time for you first date (You’ll never have the “oh, you’re busy on Friday? What about Saturday?... busy again huh?... what about Sunday… Monday… Tuesday?!!!” experience again!)

• My amazing “instant phone game” technique that allows you to keep flirting with the girl you want that is so effective even the supergirls at our seminar said, “That is so slick… that’s amazing – no one does that! I’d be so excited about getting to hang out again!

• How to follow up by phone with the girls you meet at bars to almost totally eliminate the problem of girls “flaking” on your dates (this will take your ratio of numbers-to-dates up to 80-90%!)

Take a “Voyeur” look into the game by watching
the PickUp 101 instructors pickup the Supergirls!

We had Plenty of Girls on hand, so we could Show You Exactly how this looks
in Real Life!

Betty: This PickUp 101 'Supergirl' coach hadn't met me until the morning of the seminar...


Plus, A Special Mystery Celebrity!

Watch in awe as I line my team of PickUp 101 instructors up like they’re ready for the firing squad… then I called out conversational threads or types of routines to use on the supergirls… and the instructors had to step up with no safety net and try their best lines on the girls.

You'll have a hard time believing this when you see how well they handle the challenge, but the truth is I only told them what we were doing a few hours in advance because I wanted them to share the material they use to get results when they are talking to real women, NOT something they made up just to look good at a seminar.

You’ll be amazed at how the instructors creatively take on the challenges me… AND the girls throw at them (you even get to see a couple of them crash and burn!)

For example, you won’t believe how Joe Brody can get away with calling one of the supergirls “slutty” and having her and all the girls rolling with laughter (usually that is the ultimate insult to women, even I didn’t think he could get away with this—but Joe pulls it off perfect!)

And you’ll watch in awe as Sean Newman shows how to take a group of girls, arm-in-arm, to a different bar—with the girls loving every minute of it...

Plus, you’ll see the ingenious way you can disarm any girl you’re talking to and relax her by bringing up all her objections and thoughts before she does (you’ll never get tripped up by questions like, “how many girls are you dating?”… “how old are you?”… “why don’t you buy me a drink?”… and other questions that normally make guys fall flat on their face!)

Many attendees said just watching the way the instructors put together all the different parts of the game to get the supergirls eating out of their hands was worth the entire price of the weekend.

This voyeur look into seeing the pro’s “improv flirt” with the supergirls is sure to take your competence in attraction, banter, kino, psychological space, and routines to a whole new level of effectiveness.

But that’s not all…

DVDs 11 & 12 –
Conversational threads and subcommunication

• How to easily switch conversational threads so you never have that sinking feeling in your gut because you know the conversation is dying and so are your chances with the woman you’re talking to that night!

• The 3 simple things that are WAY more important than your entire routine stack (if you mess this up – you can have a 15 minute conversation with women and think you’re doing well… but you’ll be frustrated because you’ll find you’re not getting anywhere!)

• How to get away with even the most harsh and aggressive banter lines (this is the secret Joe Brody uses to get away with calling women “bitches” and cursing aggressively with almost all his banter lines!)

• Possibly one of the most important, and revealing parts of this whole seminar was the session with the supergirls…

“How to interpret what women say…
into what they really mean!”

As men we’re pretty logical and straightforward – we say what we mean.

But with women it’s different. They have a much more developed method of communication that involves many different forms of subcommunication. For example, a woman can say “I have to go to the bathroom” to blow you off… and… also because she just has to go to the bathroom!

What this means is if you’re a guy who can pick up on what women REALLY mean when they’re talking to you, you’ll be way ahead of other guys who are clueless.

The audience loved this session, as I drilled the Supergirls and explained the real meanings of the different things they said, stuff like:

“I have to go to the bathroom”…

“I don’t give my phone number to guys in bars”…

“I have to get up early in the morning”…

“Yeah… that sounds like fun”…

“I have a boyfriend”…

Plus much, much more!

I dug deep in this session to explain how body language, posture, facial expressions, micro-expressions, voice tonality, volume and much more all need to be taken into account when listening to a woman to discover what she’s really saying.

Once you see how much of “girl talk” is decoded in this session – you’ll never look at your conversations with women the same again… and... you’ll subconsciously start to understand women much, much better!

Which means you'll get more success with women in record time!

By the way: If you don't know how to dissect what women REALLY mean when they're talking to you, you'll miss out on HUGE signals women are giving you... For Example: you'll discover when it's actually OK to buy a woman a drink...

(you'll hear how I blew my chances with an incredibly hot woman at a bar once by not realizing a woman's subcommunication is MUCH more important than what's coming out of her mouth!)

And there's still more!...

Even the PickUp 101 Instructors Were Blown Away!
These Secrets Are so Effective,
they work absolutely anywhere -- Even On Stage…
In front of an audience…
with a Supergirl who knows all the tricks!

Pictured above: Lauren falling head over heels for Joe on stage!

The secrets we reveal in this system are almost scary in how effectively they work…

In fact, the entire faculty was blown away by what happened on stage. Joe was demonstrating how to banter with a woman to trigger attraction and one of our supergirls, Lauren was keeping up with him quip for quip and the audience truly understood how to have a fun, flirty, and sexy banter battle with a woman.

What we weren’t prepared for is how effective these techniques are!

As it turns out, Lauren… even though she’s a supergirl and had listened to how and why these techniques worked for days… even though it was on stage… in front of cameras… with a room full of guys watching… was so attracted to Joe that they hooked up by the end of the weekend—and wound up dating each other for over a year! Joe and Lauren had never met before this seminar.

The secrets, strategies and techniques we expose in this system are THAT powerful. And best of all, they’re all SIMPLE to learn and use. In fact, you’ll pick up 98% of the material from just watching the DVD’s the first time!

The truth is: this stuff works so well, it’s scary. You have to be careful not to attract too many women. (I know it sounds great, but it really can be a logistical nightmare!)

It's YOUR turn to have the power and success
with women you crave...

Which brings us to this: If you want to never have that horrible, gut wrenching feeling of “I don’t know what to say” with a woman ever again… then you must have these insider secrets.

Even though you missed out on the "live" event... you're still in luck!

Because we had a professional video and audio crew tape the whole seminar.

Every single secret was caught on tape. We picked only the presentations that will help you have more fun, sexy, and charming conversations with women.

And, we're making the "uncensored" DVDs available for a short time while supplies last. These DVDs are the best way to experience our seminar in the comfort of your own home. You don't have to travel anywhere... you don't have to rent a hotel room...

With these videos you can review and play them over and over again. Without missing one little thing… which… by the way… sometimes happens at a live event.

But, you won't miss a single thing.

Here’s your chance…

Our CHARISMATIC CONVERSATIONS: Take-Home Training Kit comes with:

1. All 12 DVDs of the key presentations (every word, gesture, even audience questions are recorded and mastered onto these high-quality DVDs) and…

2. Full professional printouts of the presentation slides (we're talking one amazing dating secret after another)... use them for notes, to follow along and even see, exactly, what the privileged audience saw during those presentations...

Plus, I include all the seminar handouts.

BUT that's not all, here's...

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The "He said, She Said" interviews are a favorite of our VIP inner circle members... and this one is destined to be a classic!

Hear Joe Brody talk about his first interaction on stage, in front of an audience bantering with Lauren... and how well he thought he was doing...

Get the straight scoop from Lauren on exactly what she was thinking and feeling after each one of Joe's banter lines (she'll tell you when she actually felt attracted to him)...

You'll see the difference between how women see your interactions with them, and how you see them -- you'll be surprised at what women are actually thinking!

Once again, the only guys who got their hands on this exclusive CD are the members of our Success Secrets inner circle. But for a limited time, because you're ordering now -- this revealing Audio CD is yours absolutely FREE!

Great Reason #2: You get STORYTELLING EXPLAINED , a $139 Value, Absolutely FREE!

I gave this bonus talk on storytelling, and everyone who has seen it - absolutely loves it!

In this talk I cover everything you need to know about storytelling to generate attraction and have a woman emotionally interested in you.

WARNING: This is probably one of the "ugliest" recordings we've done -- the production quality is low, but the content is top-notch! If we were to sell this separately, it'd go for at least $139, but it's yours FREE just because you're ordering now!

Great Reason #3: You get 6 WEEKS TO YOUR NEW LIFE WITH WOMEN WORKBOOK, a $67 Value, Absolutely FREE!

"It was an Investment Worth Making!"

"It took me about 16 hours to travel up here. There was a connection flight I had to make in Detroit. It’s going to take about 24 hours to go back including a 5-hour wait in Detroit again. It may seem like a lot of time traveling. It may seem like a lot of effort to do this and it’s a lot of jet-lag involved especially since being here we’ve worked extremely long hours and I’ve been extremely tired, but it was an investment that was worth making.

The reason being the quality of information which I’ve got and the questions which I had which were unanswered previously in England, I’ve received those answers here. I think that coming here has been a great investment."

-- Mark

London, England

The problem with any type of pickup "workshop", "seminar" or "home study course" is you often will make incredible breakthroughs and progress over the time you're learning... but afterwards you're left to continue your transformation all alone!

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Until now, this exclusive workbook was only available to select audiences of our special topic seminars... it's valued at over $67 bucks... but you're getting it for FREE because you're ordering today!

Great Reason #4: You get the official PICKUP101 SET TRACKER, a $29 Value, Absolutely FREE!

In life, it's often the simple things that give you the most results!

This is the tool guys have been asking us for. It's conveniently designed so you can keep track of how many women you open... how many you close (day 2 dates, phone numbers, etc)... and the results you get.

Tracking and measuring your progress is one of the quickest ways to evaluate how you're doing now with women... what your sticking points are... what you need to work on... and how you can improve.

You'll find the extra focus you'll get from knowing what you're doing RIGHT and what you need to work on will help you improve 3 times as fast!

If we ever sell this tool separately, it'll go for $29, but it's yours free today, because you're ordering right away.

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You get...

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"The Path To Laughs" - By Joey Viola...

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This collection of articles is valued at $39, but it's yours for absolutely NOTHIN' simply because you're ordering today...

Listen, our pickup seminar was full of this kind of top-secret info that could make your dating life the stuff of legend. Each member of the faculty easily charges as much as $400 an hour for in field coaching. (And they're worth every penny.)

I'm absolutely convinced the attendees will forever transform their conversations with women into more fun, sexier experiences (some of them already are). You can join them by getting the DVDs and all the bonus CDs that come with the package.

How much is all this going to run?

Well, you should know that attendees paid up to $1,397 per seat.

That's not all... they paid that plus hotel accommodations, airfare, food and time away from their business. We had guys there from all over the world.

When you add it all up, some of these men invested over $3,000!

But you won't have to… because… for a limited time, our CHARISMATIC CONVERSATIONS: Take-Home Training Kit is available for a full…

$2,000 LESS Than Our Students
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That's right! You'll get the the best of the seminar, professionally recorded on digital DVD. Crystal-clear audio and studio-quality video.

Plus, the seminar handouts and all the bonuses. So if you prefer, you can either watch at home or listen in your car… or both! And, you'll get all this for — not the $3,000 attendees had to pay to learn it — but over $2,000 less...

You can claim your copy of the CHARISMATIC CONVERSATIONS: Take-Home Training Kit for just 5 tiny investments of $197!

Or if you prefer to pay it all up front, you'll get a further discount of $88 off the price (because you're saving me some bookkeeping hassles!) -- making your investment in this system only $897. With this option, that means it'll only cost you $2.46 per day over the next year for this life changing information!

Why would you pay that much just for a bunch of DVDs and CDs and some printed material? Good question. The answer is simple.

What I teach can turn your life around.

But, don't take my word for it. Just take a look at the testimonials running down this page showing what others say about us and our ability to transform ordinary men into men who have absolute choice with the women in their life… and the ability to attract and keep the ones who really turn them on!

Just $2.46 per day to totally transform
your relationships with women…
into fun, sexy experiences -- FOREVER!

When you really think about it, compared to having a lifetime of success with women, 5 payments of $197 is really just a painless drop in the bucket.

Consider this: Over the course of just one year, by which time you will have already completely transformed your relationships with women into fun, sexy, attractive encounters instead of boring conversations, your investment in this system will only be $2.46 per day… that’s less than the price of a cup of Starbucks coffee!

… In fact, $2.46 isn’t even the price of just ONE beer at the cheapest bar in town (and how many of those do you have to “invest in" to be able to go talk with a gorgeous woman now... or...

how many $6.00 drinks have you bought women in the hopes of getting them attracted to you?)

… plus, think about this for a moment:

Each one of the instructors charges as much as $400 an hour for teaching and consulting with students “in-field” (I charge $1,000 per hour).

Since you're getting 3 solid days (and more, when you look at all the extras and the bonuses) worth of knowledge wrapped and packed into this powerful system, that's got to be close to a $15,000 minimum value when you compare it that way.

But don't stop there.

Consider that it took many, many years for the panel to learn their craft, not only in experience — paid with heart-break, sweat, tears — but also in courses, seminars, training, trial and error, MANY failed relationships, tons of embarrassment and numerous successes and failures along the way...

I mean, look at what I went through... what all of the other pickup pros went through.

What if you had the shortcuts?

What if you could leapfrog over the frustration and time it would take to learn it all yourself? How much money would THAT be worth to you?

A lot more than 5 tiny investments of $197 I can guarantee you that.

You Only Pay For Shipping Today
Order Now and The First Payment is On ME!

I want to make this decision as easy as possible for you, so that's why I'm continuing to offer to make your first payment for this system on me.

If you choose the payment plan option, I will pay for your first investment in this system... which means you only need to make 5 payments of $197... only $985, total. You'll just need to pay for shipping today, and you'll have thirty days before your first payment.

... or if you prefer to pay it all up front, you'll get a further discount of $88 off the price (because you're saving me some bookkeeping hassles!) -- making your investment in this system only $897. With this option, that means it'll only cost you $2.46 per day over the next year for this life changing information!

Or if you would like to speak with a live person to place your order (my phone is answered weekdays from 9 am to 5 pm Pacific Time), call:

1-877-742-5879 (USA)

1-415-375-9544 (International)

That’s Over $2,433 Bucks In Free Gifts and Discounts!

Add it up yourself:

  • Your first payment for CHARISMATIC CONVERSATIONS is on me! That's on top of the steep discount compared to what the seminar attendees paid-- YOU SAVE $2,012!


  • STORYTELLING EXPLAINED is worth at least $139…

  • You get the workbook: 6 WEEKS TO YOUR NEW LIFE WITH WOMEN for Free – a $67 value…

  • You'll receive the official PICKUP101 SET TRACKER– a $29 value, FREE.

  • You get ALL ABOUT IMPROV AND COMEDY, a $39 Value, yours FREE!

Any way you add it up, that’s over $2,433 worth of FREE valuable gifts and bonuses!

What if you had the secrets of how to pickup a girl ANYWHERE, even on stage at a conference on how to pick up women?

What if you knew the story of how it worked when a world-class professional pickup artist worked his mojo on a supergirl, and so totally entranced her that not only did they hook up that weekend, but are still together, and all over each other, to this day?

This is the story of Hurricane Joe Brody and the Super Supergirl Lauren. He's a pro brought in to strut his stuff on stage. She's a hottie who has heard every line in the book, and was hired specifically to show what doesn't work when a guy tries the same old game on a really sharp, sexy girl.

And this is the story of how it took just SECONDS of banter for Lauren to start falling for Joe, like the whole audience watching them wasn't even there.


The "He said, She Said" interviews are a favorite of our VIP inner circle members... and this one is destined to be a classic!

Hear Joe Brody talk about his first interaction on stage, in front of an audience bantering with Lauren... and how well he thought he was doing...

Get the straight scoop from Lauren on exactly what she was thinking and feeling after each one of Joe's banter lines (she'll tell you when she actually felt attracted to him)...

You'll see the difference between how women see your interactions with them, and how you see them -- you'll be surprised at what women are actually thinking!

Once again, the only guys who got their hands on this exclusive CD are the members of our VIP inner circle. But because you're ordering now -- this revealing Audio CD is yours absolutely FREE!

Even though we will never sell this interview, or let anyone outside the VIP have access to it -- it would easily fly off the shelf at $147... But because you're ordering today you're getting it absolutely FREE!

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Please, if you care at all about mastering your conversational skills with women and have a ton of fun while you're at it – let me hear from you right away!


Lance Mason

P.S. - If you're getting all the success you want with women, and you can attract them and have fun, sexy, flirty conversations with them ALL, then we sincerely hope you enjoyed reading this website and congratulations on your good fortune. You represent fewer than 1% of all men! A rare gem, indeed! But...

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Students Rave About Charismatic Conversations!

“Even My Sister Says Pickup 101 is Awesome...”


I watched it all in one weekend...

It is how to flirt, but flirting usually means that you are not getting anywhere. It's like, "Oh, I will just flirt with this girl." This is different. This is flirting that is going to go somewhere. Everyone around you is laughing and having a great time. It is like how to talk like a cool guy and have cool conversations.

Pickup 101's material is like totally honest and ethical. You know that because they bring girls to their seminars and show them exactly what they are teaching and time and time again girls are like "Yeah, that is totally awesome."

I have been working on this for a couple of years and my sister on a lot of other advice is like, "No, that is weird." "That is creepy." "That can work." And when I got to Pickup 101 she was like, "This stuff is awesome." So if my sister can kind of discern and I keep hearing it from other girls that it is obviously okay with them, then it must be okay.

Justin - Austin, TX

“The First Product That Really Nails That Down and Explains How It Works...”


I watched the video DVDs about 2 weeks ago, and I felt that it gives you just a different level of conversation. And now, I just see the perspective, where it goes, and my sets became much more flirty, amazing, exciting, and this is what I want.

The thing that I enjoy most in Charismatic Conversations is role-playing & banter, and understanding how it works, and really having a good example of instructors doing that.

I am from a different culture, and we have different attitudes, so that was probably the first product that really nails that down and explains how it works.

Also, what I really like: I'm a Russian guy, I don't understand English very well. This really helps me. This is about understanding of role-playing. This is about expressing your personality. This is about the confidence to pull out stuff you wouldn't do in the office, like in life.

...Charismatic Conversations really breaks that down so you can understand that; to see the whole picture. I started to get Attraction... I started to see people attracted to me & saying, "I really like that", or people re-open me and engaging me in conversation.

This is what I would've liked to have learned 10 years ago!

Vladimir - Minneapolis, MN

“Lance has a way... of helping guys like me”


I was very impressed with Charismatic Conversations because Lance has a way... of helping guys like me find the association of the words or the logic you have in your head and the emotion that's really carrying you.

I know this for myself and I think that a lot of men would agree with me that before you really learn this, you've been conditioned to think logically, like you're Spock. All the time. And every seven years, or seven minutes you want to mate, and then you go into this, "Gotta have it" mode, but you don't have the words in between to be subtle and smooth, because you're not being aware of your own emotional state, first of all. And if you're not aware of that, you're really not aware of how much is coming at you from the women that you're interested in.

Bill Burke - Atlanta, GA

“If there are any guys out there in relationships... It might be a good idea to have your lady watch Charismatic Conversations!”


My partner is very much into attracting women herself, so she and I were working together as lab partners during the work and practice for Charismatic Conversations, and she has gone from being, "OK... How do I talk to those people?" to opening as many sets in a club as I do. ...Sometimes more!

We make a good team with that. So, if there's any guys out there in relationships maybe looking to develop something else, with another lady... It might be a good idea to have your lady watch Charismatic Conversations, and keep an open mind.

And that's the big thing is... keep an open mind.

Dave Ashcroft - Seattle, WA

“My skills and my ability to relate with people has gotten much better...”


One of the things I liked about the product was that it's got the CDs and the DVDs, so... I drive a lot so I can listen to the product while I'm driving and I always enjoy... There's always something inspirational in each CD as I'm listening to it, and it keeps my mind rolling in the direction that I want to be going.

I'm really interested in improving my skills with women, with dating, and with people. With all people, really. And I've found that through doing workshops and studying some of the materials, my skills and my ability to relate with people has gotten much better over the past couple years, in some unexpected and profound ways.

My business has improved, I own my own business... We just finished the best year I've ever had. I've been building an organization which makes my life better within my business. Building a team in my business is based in large part on my ability to find the right people and be able to communicate effectively with them, and I think that through the work I've been doing on myself about learning to communicate better by using, and attending some of the workshops, and using some of the products, and seeing awesome results in my life.

Eric - Lake Geneva, WI

“It just works!”


I purchased the Charismatic Conversations, and got a lot out of that. It actually gave me a lot more information inasfar as openers and banter.

I really liked the playful way of interacting with women. I think that it just works.

I mean, every time I banter with women, it just works.

It just makes everything so much more pleasant.

Jim Defalco - Kihei, HI

“A real, genuine, decent bunch of people”


I bought Charismatic Conversations, because there was one evening in Phoenix at the end of an Art of Rapport workshop, and I wasn't able to attend. I didn't come into town that evening.

I met with the guys and I went out with a couple of the people afterwards, and it was just a real, genuine, decent bunch of people who I thought, "These are really nice guys here - these are some of the nicest people I've met in like, two years in the States and I thought that persuaded me enough.

Richard Hanbry - London, UK

“It helped me understand bantering...”


I love Charismatic Conversations - It helped me understand bantering...

The different styles of bantering; the different ways to approach and open women or "sets" and engage in a conversation that's...

...From the beginning, fun and playful.

So... I love Charismatic Conversations for that reason.

Tony Simmons - Parsippany, NJ

“Knowing these steps will give (you) confidence...”


In looking back, I can tell you the value was, for me. I'm not sure if I can tell you what I thought was important at the time, because I honestly don't really remember, but I can say looking back, having gone through it...

The value and the goal of Charismatic Conversations is to... Not look for commonalities or try make a conversation interesting through doing all these different things. It was all these different things that they present is good to know for people who aren't comfortable with talking and just having normal conversations. If they're not comfortable with that, or they don't know what to say or thinking about it too much, knowing these steps will give them confidence. It's "OK, it's not that difficult," you know, to allow themselves to open up more. So part of that was for me...

And also, it's interesting because they tell you the structure of conversations, and they don't tell you what to say, and that's important, because you have to come up with what to say. But if you have the structure, then you can fill in the gaps yourself. And that creates a natural, flowing, (and hopefully) pleasant experience if you have everything together for the woman, or another guy, or kid, or anyone you're talking to.

William Chow - Los Angeles, CA